Thursday Feb 19, 2009
by Scott Kearnan
Sporks: Theyíre not
just for cafeterias anymore.
"Itís a fun little movie that Iíve been wanting to get to for a while,"
says Chad Allen about Spork, an upcoming film for which the out
actor and activist will once again don his producerís hat. Described as an
"irreverent, hilarious, MTV-style film," Spork is the story of a
14-year-old hermaphrodite so named because "she has both parts," says
"Itís a surefire festival entry!" he adds with a chuckle.
Allen sure is busy. Speaking by phone, he has just returned home after
wrapping the West Palm Beach, Fla., engagement of Looped, a play
about original celebrity bad girl and perennial gay icon Tallulah Bankhead
(Valerie Harper). The show picks up again in May for a run in Washington,
D.C., and Allen says thereís chatter it may be Broadway-bound, too. But
heís also excited about the continuing evolution of Donald Strachey, the
gay private investigator he has originated in a series of films for the
here! network. The third Strachey flick, On the Other Hand, Death,
finally hits DVD on Feb. 24, and costars the legendary Margot Kidder as
one half of an older, lesbian couple being hassled by their neighbors (or
are they?) in a quiet rural town: lies, deceit, double-crossing, and shady
real estate investments ensue.
Allen chatted with Bay Windows about the development of the series,
where it goes next, and his other, more personal career as an LGBT
It feels like just yesterday we met this character, but this is now
the third Donald Strachey mystery on DVD.
Is it the third? Weíve made four so far, but Iím not sure if the fourth
one [Ice Blues] is on DVD yet. I should probably know that!
[Laughs] But truth be told, we shot On the Other Hand, Death
and Ice Blues simultaneously so we kept mixing the movies together.
Even on a given day of production, the director and I would get so
confused about which one we were making. Once we were convinced we put the
wrong car in the wrong film, and were about to reshoot an entire sequence
using a different car. Luckily the script supervisor caught it. But
especially in a detective film, there are so many little details: "Wait,
what clue are we on now? What do I know at this point?"
Too funny. And the films have certainly evolved, havenít they?
Absolutely. In the first film, we werenít as sure about what we were going
to make. Stylistically it was very outlandish, the characters were very
bizarre, and Donald is the "straight man" in the middle of this very
bizarre world. ... But we [discovered] we really wanted to make a noir,
reality based detective series that was fun to watch but dense in terms of
the mystery. Iím really proud of On the Other Hand, Death. ... And
Donald, personally, continues to be the character I wanted to create. Heís
a guy whoís good at what he does. Heís not always great! But heís
absolutely determined to do the right thing.
Even if itís not always smooth sailing for him.
Right. This is not James Bond! He drives a crappy car, heís messy, he
doesnít think twice about grabbing someone around the neck. Heís not
always appropriate but he loves what he does and heís intent on doing the
Heís certainly not James Bond! In fact, it would have been easy to
write Strachey as bedding a new guy in every film, but instead heís in a
long-term relationship with Timothy. How important was that sense of
monogamy to his character, for you?
Hugely important. We created this grounded relationship because I knew
that was something I could sink my teeth in, something we hadnít seen,
something important to bring to young gay people, and something personally
important to me because thatís my own experience. When people tell me they
love the movies, over and over they tell me they love the development of
Well, Timothy seems like heís an important, stabilizing balance to
Donaldís chaotic P.I. life.
I love you put it that way. When I first saw the scripts, I saw that if
Donald didnít have Timothy he probably couldnít get out the door. ... I
donít know if he could get through life. And I can understand that! I
sometimes feel my partner is so perfectly attuned to helping me with
certain aspects of life, like attention to detail or the simple fact that
I canít go anywhere without leaving my computer or my backpack behind.
[Laughs] Iím always so interested in the people Iím with and what
weíre going to do next, it doesnít occur to me to put a coin in the
parking meter, pay the bill, pick up my computer case. My partner is great
at that stuff. He reminds me of birthdays, and that I should probably call
my mom. He gets me through life.
What was it like to work with Margot Kidder on this film?
It was rad. When they first said Margot Kidder was coming to do this show,
I was like, "Okay, whatís she going to be like?" But sheís an amazing
human being. I think sheís a beautiful actress and does terrific work, but
just who she is as a person... I mean, Margot Kidder, brings Margot Kidder
to work every day. We would drive to work together every morning, and we
would spend the entire time hashing out liberal politics and talking. She
would tell me about what it was like to be in Hollywood in earlier days of
the civil rights movement and womenís rights. It was just an amazing
perspective. She just owns who she is in such a beautiful way. I was so
grateful to work with her and I would do it again in a second! She
delivered a hell of a performance in the film!
Her character in the film is a guidance counselor who becomes
targeted for speaking out on behalf of gay teens. As someone so visible
and vocal in the LGBT community, have you ever felt an intimidating
When I was producing Corpus Christi [the Terrence McNally play
featuring 12 gay men with the names of Jesusí apostles], people were
saying, "You canít do that!" There were so many death threats and upset
people. I had my life threatened both in that production and End of the
Spear [a film in which Allen played a famous Christian missionary].
Iíve received lots of angry letters, been hijacked on the radio by people
claiming they wanted to do interviews, only to find out they were
religious bigots who wanted to have me on to try to make a fool out of me.
Iíve had more people wanting to "save" me than I can even recall. I had
plenty of people - even well meaning people - tell me when I was starting
to come out that it would end my career.
Has it ever been too much?
There have certainly been plenty of times when I thought, "Maybe itís time
I turned this fight over to someone else, because Iíve done my, quote
unquote, fair share." There have been times when I thought, "Boy, I would
really like to go back to being just an actor, and not have to constantly
be having these conversations about what it all means in the grand scheme
of things." Iíd be lying if I said there still arenít times when I say,
"Boy, that would be nice." But ultimately this is the path I chose ...
ultimately, whether or not I make the kind of money I once made doing
series television is irrelevant. Itís no matter how famous or not famous I
wind up in the end, or the money. I love my life.
Thereís a debate in the film about whether progress in the LGBT
community best happens by revolution or by small, incremental steps
towards equality. Donald Strachey has his opinion; whatís Chad Allenís?
Well, I donít remember exactly what Donald said in the movie [Laughs],
but Iím pretty sure we have the same feeling. I believe in both. If you
look at the civil rights movement, itís both gradual evolution coupled
with sudden bursts of creative energy. It takes both marches and riots and
jumping up and down and screaming ... and it takes slow growth. On a
personal level, it takes my willingness to stand up and scream at a podium
and confront bigotry when I see it ... and it takes my willingness to sit
on an airplane next to my partner and hold his hand there in public.
Since you shot the last two films simultaneously, does that mean we
can expect a longer break before the next installment?
I think so, unfortunately. Not the least of which is because Iím super
busy and here! has a lot on their plate. The movies are based on six
books, and two books remain. ... I just had a meeting about things, and it
just so happens the last two books are also the toughest to translate [to
film]. They make for a tough script. But we want to do them and weíre
continuing to work on that. I believe weíll get them shot this year, but I
canít tell you exactly when. Itís a goal of mine.
Any other goals for Chad Allen? Thoughts on where youíd like to take
I havenít said this in a long time, but I think Iíd really like to work
back on network television. Iíve been having a lot of fun the last few
years creating characters that probably couldnít be on networks. For
years, there werenít any gay characters that I wanted to play [on network
television] and now that Iíve been away for a while Iím starting to think
it would be exciting to be on a large medium again to reach the kind of
audience you get to reach. ... TV has never been the most exciting for me
because it isnít the most artistic, but in terms of the size of the
audience and the comfort level I now have with who I am, it would be
interesting to reach that kind of audience.